Eggbert Nobacon
9:16 Mon Dec 1
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Although when we sent back we still tried to take on loan didn't we?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
9:13 Mon Dec 1
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Stewie
Are you saying that Sakho came knowing that the manager didn't rate him?
If that's true, he must be a bit of a thickie.
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stewie griffin
8:49 Mon Dec 1
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It was Sakho who said allardyce sent him back, when he was thanking David SULLIVAN for signing him.
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franksfat&slow&wank
8:19 Mon Dec 1
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I know surface... I have these moments very rarely though
I read fat man wanted Sakho on loan initially but in all fairness he was under pressure as previous gamble from frog league didn't work out
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LJC
8:11 Mon Dec 1
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Brucies - he wanted sakho on loan not perm I thought?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
7:55 Mon Dec 1
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Stop talking sense, Franks!
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franksfat&slow&wank
7:51 Mon Dec 1
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He's right again
Unless this mob secure min of 5th then they're not as good surely ?
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One Raducioiu!
7:32 Mon Dec 1
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It would be stupid for him to play up the strength of this side. The last thing we need before Christmas is players getting big heads.
He's got a point, that Bolton side was really good, but I think deep down he knows this one is better. Good decision not to admit that though.
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Grumpster
6:37 Mon Dec 1
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Probably more that money turned up in the game than Fergie, though that pissed up Scottish genius didn't help!
Laughable really that in todays climate, he would have been bloody long gone before finally getting the successful squad together.
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Eggbert Nobacon
6:34 Mon Dec 1
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or wa sit 17
somethign like that anyway
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Eggbert Nobacon
6:34 Mon Dec 1
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27 years Man United went without a win at Upton Park Ex
then Ferguson turned up!
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Brucies_Star_Prize
6:33 Mon Dec 1
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I see the usual suspects out in force, unable to come to terms with their own cluelessness. Just a couple of gems that have lightened up my day:
- Allardyce didn't want Sakho this summer
- His unsustainable model at Bolton ultimately cost them.
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WHU(Exeter)
6:26 Mon Dec 1
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We used to have one of the best records in the country against Manchester Utd - there were only a handful of clubs with a better one at one point.
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Grumpster
6:20 Mon Dec 1
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I imagine that with the exception of the top teams in England, most managers records against Wenger are shit.
Not really that hard to work out that a team who has been in the top 4 for as many years as Arsenal, will have bloody good records against most teams to have sustained that.
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ajc123
6:15 Mon Dec 1
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Not really that interested in the bleatings of the fat bloke but to set this straight yet again, his record against Wenger was and is shite. I'll see if I get a response from those with pie tinted spectacles before I post the stats (again).
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
6:08 Mon Dec 1
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As someone said earlier, Allardyce didn't just bring this up out of the blue.
There was a direct question or at least a context. He isn't trying to use it as a justification for anything.
He may be trying to wheedle a few more quid out of the board - if he is, I applaud him.
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stewie griffin
5:57 Mon Dec 1
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The only thing I have any objection to about the Bolton thing - although I agree its mentioned more by others tyhan it is him - is I don't think its especially relevant.
It was a long time ago, and the game has moved on dramatically since. Like when Martin O'NEILL went to Sunderland, and used his performance at Leicester as some sort of yardstick to suggest he'd do well. Ludicrous.
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Johnson
5:57 Mon Dec 1
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FMOB
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Eggbert Nobacon
5:55 Mon Dec 1
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irons
they paid silly money for Elamnder after QAllardyce left also
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ironsofcanada
5:54 Mon Dec 1
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Oops forgot a name from the first list
Nicky Hunt – 24 – Free transfer – 2010 – Bolton youth
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ironsofcanada
5:52 Mon Dec 1
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Got bored, so here are the players that made more than 30 appearance in Allardyce's last season at Bolton - their age when he left in 2007 - their fee when they left - what year that was - their net transfer at Bolton.
Kevin Nolan – 25 - 3,96 Mill. £ - 2009 – all profit, Bolton youth
Abdoulaye Méïté – 27 - 2,29 Mill. £- 2008 – aprox. £900,000 profit
Gary Speed – 38 – free transfer – 2008 - £750000 loss
Iván Campo – 33 – free transfer – 2008 – wash
Kevin Davies – 30 – free transfer – 2013 – wash
El Hadji Diouf – 26 - 2,82 Mill. £ - 2008 – aprox. £1.4 loss
Jussi Jääskeläinen -32 – free transfer – 2012 – aprox. £132000 loss
Abdoulaye Faye - 29 - 2,46 Mill. £ - 2007 – aprox. £200000 loss
Tal Ben Haim – 25 – * free transfer – 2008 – aprox. £200000 loss
*but the sold for 5.63 million from Chelsea to Man City a year later, wow
Nicolas Anelka – 28 - 18,48 Mill. £ - 2008 – aprox. £8 million profit.
(Related question does anyone else know of any other players (including retirees) that Allardyce brought in at Bolton that were a net loss of more than a million £ other than Diouf and Borgetti (1.2)
If you want to look at Bolton's debt, look at the spending
the year after he left.
Gary Cahill 5,28 Mill. £
Grétar Steinsson 4,62 Mill. £
Matthew Taylor 4,14 Mill. £
Heidar Helguson 2,51 Mill. £
Gavin McCann 1,32 Mill. £
Tamir Cohen 704 Th. £
Daniel Braaten 660 Th. £
To be fair, Cahill was £2 million in profit but the rest were losses, a number of them, including Steinsson, were completely so.
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